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| w22dheartlivie |
Posted - 02/10/2008 : 05:28:32
Once again it's Oscar time, and I do love awards season. Sunday the 24th is the day when Hollywood congratulates itself on a job well done. I just hope the show goes on, I love the glitz and glamour. I'll be conducting the contest again. Vote for your choices in the categories listed below and we'll see who calls it the closest. Vote on the basis you want, whether it's who you want to win, who you think will win, or who think should win and for as many or few as you want. I'll be sprinkling 10 votes for every award each entrant calls correctly (this could mean visiting many pages...). Feel free to enter, and if you want, sprinkle votes to the participants who call the winners correctly!!!
Performance by an actor in a leading role
George Clooney - Michael Clayton
Daniel Day-Lewis - There Will Be Blood - WON
Johnny Depp - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
Tommy Lee Jones - In the Valley of Elah
Viggo Mortensen - Eastern Promises
Performance by an actor in a supporting role
Casey Affleck - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Javier Bardem - No Country for Old Men - WON
Philip Seymour Hoffman - Charlie Wilson's War
Hal Holbrook - Into the Wild
Tom Wilkinson - Michael Clayton
Performance by an actress in a leading role
Cate Blanchett - Elizabeth: The Golden Age
Julie Christie - Away from Her
Marion Cotillard - La Vie en Rose (La m�me) - WON
Laura Linney - The Savages
Ellen Page - Juno
Performance by an actress in a supporting role
Cate Blanchett - I'm Not There
Ruby Dee - American Gangster
Saoirse Ronan - Atonement
Amy Ryan - Gone Baby Gone
Tilda Swinton - Michael Clayton - WON
Best animated feature film of the year
Persepolis
Ratatouille - WON
Surf's Up
Achievement in art direction
Arthur Max and Beth Rubino - American Gangster
Sarah Greenwood and Katie Spencer - Atonement
Dennis Gassner and Anna Pinnock - The Golden Compass
Dante Ferretti and Francesca Lo Schiavo - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street - WON
Jack Fisk and Jim Erickson - There Will Be Blood
Achievement in cinematography
Roger Deakins - The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Seamus McGarvey - Atonement
Janusz Kaminski - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Roger Deakins - No Country for Old Men
Robert Elswit - There Will Be Blood - WON
Achievement in costume design
Albert Wolsky - Across the Universe
Jacqueline Durran - Atonement
Alexandra Byrne - Elizabeth: The Golden Age - WON
Marit Allen - La Vie en Rose
Colleen Atwood - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
Achievement in directing
Paul Thomas Anderson - There Will Be Blood
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen - No Country for Old Men - WON
Tony Gilroy - Michael Clayton
Jason Reitman - Juno
Julian Schnabel - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Best documentary feature
No End in Sight
Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience
Sicko
Taxi to the Dark Side - WON
War/Dance
Best documentary short subject
Freeheld - WON
La Corona
Salim Baba
Sari's Mother
Achievement in film editing
Christopher Rouse - The Bourne Ultimatum - WON
Juliette Welfling - The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Jay Cassidy - Into the Wild
Roderick Jaynes - No Country for Old Men
Dylan Tichenor - There Will Be Blood
Best foreign language film of the year
Beaufort (Israel)
The Counterfeiters (Austria) - WON
Katy#324; (Poland)
Mongol (Kazakhstan)
12 (Russia)
Achievement in makeup
Didier Lavergne and Jan Archibald - La Vie en Rose - WIN
Rick Baker and Kazuhiro Tsuji - Norbit
Ve Neill and Martin Samuel - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score)
3:10 to Yuma - Marco Beltrami
Atonement - Dario Marianelli - WON
The Kite Runner - Alberto Iglesias
Michael Clayton - James Newton Howard
Ratatouille - Michael Giacchino
Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original song)
"Falling Slowly" from Once - Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova - WON
"Happy Working Song" from Enchanted - Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz
"Raise It Up" from August Rush - Jamal Joseph, Charles Mack and Tevin Thomas
"So Close" from Enchanted - Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz
"That's How You Know" from Enchanted - Alan Menken and Stephen Schwartz
Best motion picture of the year
Atonement
Juno
Michael Clayton
No Country for Old Men - WON
There Will Be Blood
Best animated short film
Even Pigeons Go To Heaven
I Met the Walrus
Madame Tutli-Putli
My Love
Peter and the Wolf - WON
Best live action short film
At Night
Tanghi Argentini
The Mozart of Pickpockets - WON
The Substitute
The Tonto Woman
Achievement in sound editing
The Bourne Ultimatum - Karen Baker Landers and Per Hallberg - WON
No Country for Old Men - Skip Lievsay
Ratatouille - Randy Thom and Michael Silvers
There Will Be Blood - Matthew Wood
Transformers - Ethan van Der Ryn and Mike Hopkins
Achievement in sound mixing
The Bourne Ultimatum - Scott Millan, David Parker, and Kirk Francis - WON
No Country for Old Men - Skip Lievsay, Craig Berkey, Greg Orloff, and Peter Kurland
Ratatouille - Randy Thom, Michael Semanick, and Doc Kane
3:10 to Yuma - Paul Massey, David Giammarco, and Jim Steube
Transformers - Kevin O'Connell, Greg P. Russell, and Peter J. Devlin
Achievement in visual effects
The Golden Compass - WON
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Transformers
Adapted screenplay
Atonement
Screenplay by Christopher Hampton
From Atonement, novel by Ian McEwan
Away from Her
Screenplay by Sarah Polley
From The Bear Came over the Mountain, short story by Alice Munro
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
Screenplay by Ronald Harwood
From Le scaphandre et le papillon, memoir by Jean-Dominique Bauby
No Country for Old Men - WON
Screenplay by Joel and Ethan Coen
From No Country for Old Men, novel by Cormac McCarthy
There Will Be Blood
Screenplay by Paul Thomas Anderson
From Oil!, novel by Upton Sinclair
Original screenplay
Juno - WON
Screenplay by Diablo Cody
Lars and the Real Girl
Screenplay by Nancy Oliver
Michael Clayton
Screenplay by Tony Gilroy
Ratatouille
Screenplay by Brad Bird
The Savages
Screenplay by Tamara Jenkins |
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| MM0rkeleb |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 17:48:31
I would like to say that there is a big difference between No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood (although not so much that there isn't a big intersection between their adherents). I think Glenn Kenny of Premiere put it best when he wrote:
'It's [NCFOM] a marbled film, if you get my meaning. There Will Be Blood is genius, I'm convinced; it's also something of a blunt object. The two films have so much in common (it seems) on the surface, and yet couldn't be more different.'
And I think which one you prefer may have a lot to do with whether you prefer 'marbled' or 'blunt object'.
For what it's worth, I'm most decidedly in the latter camp. |
| MisterBadIdea |
Posted - 02/27/2008 : 23:40:37
Salopian, I think we are just going to have resign ourselves to being lifelong mortal enemies. |
| Sal[Au]pian |
Posted - 02/27/2008 : 22:31:36
quote:
Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
You don't have to like the film, but please, let's not just make ridiculous comments. A whole lot happens in There Will Be Blood. You know that.
If people were not allowed to make ridiculous comments, then you would not be able to say a whole lot. 
Please feel free to tell me what (of interest/consequence/value) happens in There Will Be Blood. I only remember a man becoming embittered in a wholly predictable way. That's it. |
| Wheelz |
Posted - 02/27/2008 : 20:07:41
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian
I was having to abstract quite widely in order to find anything in common between the films!
One thing they have in common is they were (at least in part) filmed at the same time not far from one another.
According to IMDB, smoke from the oil-well fire scene in TWWB interfered with filming for NCFOM, and the Coens had to shut down production for the day.
Of course I realize this has nothing at all to do with the debate over the relative quality of the two films. I just found it to be an interesting bit of trivia!  |
| MisterBadIdea |
Posted - 02/27/2008 : 19:54:07
quote:
There's not really a lot of violence (or anything else) in There Will Be Blood
You don't have to like the film, but please, let's not just make ridiculous comments. A whole lot happens in There Will Be Blood. You know that. |
| Sal[Au]pian |
Posted - 02/27/2008 : 19:37:29
quote:
Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood have a lot in common -- they're both tough for a mainstream audience to get their head around, they're both very cold and detached, they both take place in roughly the same part of the country, they're both punctuated by sudden acts of meaningless violence.
There's nothing in There Will Be Blood to get one's head around, so that's not the case. They're indeed both detached in parts, but in quite different ways and that's an adjective that could be applied to a huge number of films. I'd have to look up the geography, but again I'm guessing that their 'similar' location is actually fairly vast and covers numerous other films too. There's not really a lot of violence (or anything else) in There Will Be Blood, so I cannot agree on that being a similarity either.
Sure, one can phrase sentences that apply to both films, but not really to a meaningful degree of specificity. |
| Sal[Au]pian |
Posted - 02/27/2008 : 19:32:49
quote:
Originally posted by wildhartlivie
I haven't seen either of them yet, but I didn't have the impression that No Country for Old Men was set so much in the past?
It's set in 1980, so much more recently than the other one. I was having to abstract quite widely in order to find anything in common between the films! |
| turrell |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 17:05:57
quote:
Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
You know, if you're such, you know, the type of person that There Will Be Blood is not your cup of tea
Really the appropriate phrase for this film is not your cup of milkshake (because DDL drank your milkshake) |
| MisterBadIdea |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 07:43:23
No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood have a lot in common -- they're both tough for a mainstream audience to get their head around, they're both very cold and detached, they both take place in roughly the same part of the country, they're both punctuated by sudden acts of meaningless violence.
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| w22dheartlivie |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 05:30:37
I haven't seen either of them yet, but I didn't have the impression that No Country for Old Men was set so much in the past? |
| Sal[Au]pian |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 21:48:27
quote:
Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
You know, if you're such, you know, the type of person that There Will Be Blood is not your cup of tea, I can't imagine that No Country for Old Men would do it for you.
Imagine what you like. I don't need to imagine whether I'd like it, as I've seen it. And I don't really think the films have much in common, other than being set in non-urban parts of America in the past. |
| MisterBadIdea |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 21:27:44
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian
Shucks, didn't see this thread till now.
Anyway, I'm more than satisafied that that terrible film didn't win Best Picture. 
You know, if you're such, you know, the type of person that There Will Be Blood is not your cup of tea, I can't imagine that No Country for Old Men would do it for you. |
| Sal[Au]pian |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 20:57:37
Shucks, didn't see this thread till now.
Anyway, I'm more than satisafied that that terrible film didn't win Best Picture. |
| MM0rkeleb |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 15:30:29
Dang! I actually thought about switching my pick to Swinton when her name started showing up in some predix, but thought I'd stick with my gut.
Can't argue with it, though. I thought it was a terrific performance. |
| w22dheartlivie |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 07:45:02
Oscar pick results:
R o � k G 0 1 f - 10/24 - 41.67% -- Done!
MM0rkeleb - 15/24 - 62.5 % -- Done!
Randall - 11/24 - 45.83% -- Done!
wildhartlivie - 16/24 - 66.67% -- Um, no.
Ali - 10/24 - 41.67%
GHCool - 15/24 - 62.5 %
ChocolateLady - 13/24 - 54.17%
Whippersnapper - 9/24 - 37.5 %
turrell - 11/24 - 45.83%
Group - 110/216 - 50.93%
Best Actor - Daniel Day-Lewis: 9/9 = 100%
Best Supporting Actor - Javier Bardem: 8/9 = 88.89%
Best Actress - Marion Cotillard: 0/9 = 0%
Best Supporting Actress - Tilda Swinton: 0/9 = 0%
Best Picture - No Country For Old Men: 6/9 = 66.67%
Vote sprinkling shall commence over the next 2-3 days. Good job to everyone and I'm still depressed about the Johnny Depp thing...
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