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turrell 
"Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh "
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 Posted - 01/10/2008 : 05:44:48
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I am a casual Star Wars fans - I have seen all of the 6 movies, but not 20 times a piece. I was watching Return of the Jedi tonight and wondered why if Yoda is 900 years old, then why did he look so much younger in episodes 1 - 3?
This is the equivalent of 78 - 81 for humans.
Also these older movoes are nearly as cheezy as the new ones - they have that weird muppet guy eating C3PO's eyes? I guess when I was 11 I was far less discerning. |
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GHcool
"Forever a curious character."
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 06:07:16
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Originally posted by turrell
I am a casual Star Wars fans - I have seen all of the 6 movies, but not 20 times a piece. I was watching Return of the Jedi tonight and wondered why if Yoda is 900 years old, then why did he look so much younger in episodes 1 - 3?
This is the equivalent of 78 - 81 for humans.
Also these older movoes are nearly as cheezy as the new ones - they have that weird muppet guy eating C3PO's eyes? I guess when I was 11 I was far less discerning.
A few hypotheses:
1. Return of the Jedi (Episode 3) takes place roughly 25 years after Revenge of the Sith (Episode 6). Luke was born in Episode 3 and is roughly 25 in Episode 6. Thus, if he was 900 in Episode 6, he must have been 875 in Episode 3.
2. Luke and the other humans in the "galaxy far, far away" age differently than the humans do in our galaxy. For all we know Luke might also be 900. Therefore, much more time might have passed between Episode 3 and Episode 6 than we might be able to gage empirically.
3. Our understanding of "years" is that a year is the time it take Earth to revolve around our Sun. Thus, if someone on Earth were to say that he or she is 900 years old, they would mean that the Earth made 900 revolutions around the Sun since their birth. The Star Wars understanding of "years" would probably be completely different since it is unlikely that they would use our Earth and Sun as their time reference.
4. Yodas show signs of aging faster than humans despite their superior longevity. |
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 06:23:09
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| Going from the most important religious official in the galaxy to a nobody, exiled alone to a nasty swamp with the knowledge that you failed in your responsibility to protect the universe, thus leading the entire galaxy into a generation-long era of misery -- well, that has to put some wrinkles on a guy's face. |
Edited by - MisterBadIdea on 01/10/2008 06:23:49 |
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turrell
"Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh "
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 07:09:13
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Ok - I didn't mean to sci-fi geek it up too much - its what I don't like about Lucas' double trilogy - he tries so hard to make every last little thing fit - like - Boba Fett sees his father killed so he grows up to be a miserable bounty hunter - who cares, worry about telling a story and not about insignificant loose ends.
In trying to weave the through story he shows how young and vital Yoda used to be. We know He is old at 900 because he makes fun of his age and we know that Luke is young because the Emperor chides him for his youthfulness.
I am frankly surpirsed he didn't devote 20 minutes to show how Jar Jar evolved into an ewok in 25 of your earth years. |
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 14:13:59
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| He didn't really look younger, he was wrinkled with white wispy hair and he used a walking stick when he wasn't channeling The Force through his body (my own explanation). But he definitely looked healthier, which makes perfect sense to me. It's not unusual for someone to be elderly but vibrant, then suddenly go downhill very quickly for one reason or another. I'll bet that if an 80 year old man in very good health who was used to a very comfortable lifestyle had to start living in a filthy, wet swamp, he'd probably be dead within two years. |
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 14:29:33
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Ok - I didn't mean to sci-fi geek it up too much - its what I don't like about Lucas' double trilogy - he tries so hard to make every last little thing fit - like - Boba Fett sees his father killed so he grows up to be a miserable bounty hunter - who cares, worry about telling a story and not about insignificant loose ends.
Very true, although to be honest I don't think Yoda is a symptom of that problem. It makes perfect sense for Yoda to be in the prequels, it would be very odd if he wasn't. However, Chewbacca, C-3PO, and especially Boba Fett -- these are characters which neither need nor were particularly wanted to be in the prequels, and their presence is awkward and forced. |
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turrell
"Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh "
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 14:41:18
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Yoda needed to be there, he just didn't need to be so spry in my opinion. Similiarly, they didn't need to insert Hayden Christiansen at the end of Jedi, they didn't need to inseert a slimmer Jabba, etc.
I was happy after 25 years to see princess leia in her Jabba enforced uniform... |
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MguyX 
"X marks the spot"
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 17:14:20
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randall 
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 23:19:20
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Since we're talking about Yoda's age, this one will be for boomers-and-older only, I guess...
I've heard over the years that Yoda resembles this and that person, but the source seemed obvious to me when I first laid eyes on him in 1980. Yet I've never heard this particular comparison:
Yoda is the spittin' image of Theodore H. White, the late author of several quadrennial MAKING OF THE PRESIDENT books. The resemblance is so strong that I can't believe somebody on the Yoda development team wasn't face-checking White, a very wise man in his own life. Not just resemblance, but facial expressions too.
I concede that most readers of this post will have no idea who Teddy White was, but has anybody else noticed this? Or have any Yoda creators fessed up in the press? |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 02:26:10
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| Randall, have you gotten into the catnip again? |
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 05:12:55
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Originally posted by 16-0
Randall, have you gotten into the catnip again?
Nope, but rest assured that back in 1980 it was tres abundant.
I still say Yoda's facial physiognomy is, simply, Teddy White's. |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 05:20:50
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Originally posted by Randall
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Originally posted by 16-0
Randall, have you gotten into the catnip again?
Nope, but rest assured that back in 1980 it was tres abundant.
I still say Yoda's facial physiognomy is, simply, Teddy White's.
I rest Randall's case!
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 07:43:41
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silly 
"That rabbit's DYNAMITE."
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 17:46:10
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Originally posted by MguyX
The short answer: the special effects folks got carried away in the later installments.
Oven Mitt technology grew by leaps and bounds (hence, his ability to leap and bound in the later/earlier movies) |
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turrell
"Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh "
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Posted - 01/11/2008 : 18:58:26
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| Teddy white looks like Yogi Berra. (Yoda Berra - Teddy bears - ewoks - huh?) |
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Sludge 
"Charlie Don't Serf!"
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Posted - 01/13/2008 : 16:52:34
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Yoda - really?
