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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"
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 Posted - 02/25/2008 : 21:48:27
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
You know, if you're such, you know, the type of person that There Will Be Blood is not your cup of tea, I can't imagine that No Country for Old Men would do it for you.
Imagine what you like. I don't need to imagine whether I'd like it, as I've seen it. And I don't really think the films have much in common, other than being set in non-urban parts of America in the past. |
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w22dheartlivie
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 05:30:37
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| I haven't seen either of them yet, but I didn't have the impression that No Country for Old Men was set so much in the past? |
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 07:43:23
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No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood have a lot in common -- they're both tough for a mainstream audience to get their head around, they're both very cold and detached, they both take place in roughly the same part of the country, they're both punctuated by sudden acts of meaningless violence.
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turrell 
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 17:05:57
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
You know, if you're such, you know, the type of person that There Will Be Blood is not your cup of tea
Really the appropriate phrase for this film is not your cup of milkshake (because DDL drank your milkshake) |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 02/27/2008 : 19:32:49
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
I haven't seen either of them yet, but I didn't have the impression that No Country for Old Men was set so much in the past?
It's set in 1980, so much more recently than the other one. I was having to abstract quite widely in order to find anything in common between the films! |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 02/27/2008 : 19:37:29
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood have a lot in common -- they're both tough for a mainstream audience to get their head around, they're both very cold and detached, they both take place in roughly the same part of the country, they're both punctuated by sudden acts of meaningless violence.
There's nothing in There Will Be Blood to get one's head around, so that's not the case. They're indeed both detached in parts, but in quite different ways and that's an adjective that could be applied to a huge number of films. I'd have to look up the geography, but again I'm guessing that their 'similar' location is actually fairly vast and covers numerous other films too. There's not really a lot of violence (or anything else) in There Will Be Blood, so I cannot agree on that being a similarity either.
Sure, one can phrase sentences that apply to both films, but not really to a meaningful degree of specificity. |
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 02/27/2008 : 19:54:07
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There's not really a lot of violence (or anything else) in There Will Be Blood
You don't have to like the film, but please, let's not just make ridiculous comments. A whole lot happens in There Will Be Blood. You know that. |
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Wheelz 
"FWFR%u2019ing like it%u2019s 1999"
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Posted - 02/27/2008 : 20:07:41
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Originally posted by Salopian
I was having to abstract quite widely in order to find anything in common between the films!
One thing they have in common is they were (at least in part) filmed at the same time not far from one another.
According to IMDB, smoke from the oil-well fire scene in TWWB interfered with filming for NCFOM, and the Coens had to shut down production for the day.
Of course I realize this has nothing at all to do with the debate over the relative quality of the two films. I just found it to be an interesting bit of trivia!  |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 02/27/2008 : 22:31:36
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
You don't have to like the film, but please, let's not just make ridiculous comments. A whole lot happens in There Will Be Blood. You know that.
If people were not allowed to make ridiculous comments, then you would not be able to say a whole lot. 
Please feel free to tell me what (of interest/consequence/value) happens in There Will Be Blood. I only remember a man becoming embittered in a wholly predictable way. That's it. |
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 02/27/2008 : 23:40:37
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MM0rkeleb 
"Better than HBO."
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 17:48:31
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I would like to say that there is a big difference between No Country for Old Men and There Will Be Blood (although not so much that there isn't a big intersection between their adherents). I think Glenn Kenny of Premiere put it best when he wrote:
'It's [NCFOM] a marbled film, if you get my meaning. There Will Be Blood is genius, I'm convinced; it's also something of a blunt object. The two films have so much in common (it seems) on the surface, and yet couldn't be more different.'
And I think which one you prefer may have a lot to do with whether you prefer 'marbled' or 'blunt object'.
For what it's worth, I'm most decidedly in the latter camp. |
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