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MisterBadIdea 
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 Posted - 02/29/2008 : 16:27:21
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My problem with Gladiator that is that it has all those inaccuracies but acts like a serious high-tone austere drama. Braveheart was historically inaccurate too, but it was far more exciting and didn't care if it looked accurate or not. Maximus isn't much of a hero either -- William Wallace was fighting for high ideals like freedom, Maximus is just out to get his. Not entertained am I.
The English Patient is just an outright piece of shit. It's neither romantic nor sexy in any way. Its failures are especially apparent when compared to the next year's Best Picture winner Titanic, a big dumb crowdpleaser for big dumb crowds which is still far more sincere, dynamic and enjoyable than the deadening English Patient. |
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turrell 
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 18:17:16
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
The English Patient is just an outright piece of shit. It's neither romantic nor sexy in any way. Its failures are especially apparent when compared to the next year's Best Picture winner Titanic, a big dumb crowdpleaser for big dumb crowds which is still far more sincere, dynamic and enjoyable than the deadening English Patient.
I thought the storyline with Juliette Binoche was more romantic than anything in Titantic. Titanic was good as an actiona film wrapped in an period-piece romance, but it was bad dialogue and butchered delivery by Leo who was way too modern for this role though he's been good in other period films (Aviator, Catch Me if You Can, etc.) |
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 18:50:58
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Originally posted by MisterBadIdea
My problem with Gladiator that is that it has all those inaccuracies but acts like a serious high-tone austere drama. Braveheart was historically inaccurate too, but it was far more exciting and didn't care if it looked accurate or not. Maximus isn't much of a hero either -- William Wallace was fighting for high ideals like freedom, Maximus is just out to get his. Not entertained am I.
I'm not sure if the terms "historically accurate" or "historically inaccurate" can really be applied to Braveheart. Braveheart is a movie about a historical figure who's so wrapped up in myth and legend that what happened and what didn't happen is always up for debate. In fact, Gibson has even talked openly about this...that when the film was in early pre-production, they did a lot of research and confirmed there were so many question marks about what Wallace did and didn't do that there was plenty of room for artistic license. So yes, they did make a lot of stuff up...but the historical record is so full of holes that what they made up could just as easily turn out to be true.
Of course, there are a lot of inaccuracies about the other characters in this movie. For example, I believe Edward II hadn't even been born yet when Wallace was a fugitive, and a lot of the facts about Robert Bruce are wrong, too. But who cares? This movie isn't about those people. It's about William Wallace. |
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Sean
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 21:09:24
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I think Braveheart, Titanic, and Gladiator are perfect examples of popcorn fodder. Perfectly entertaining, use up 2-3 hours and you can happily forget about them 5 minutes after leaving the cinema. That's what they were made to be, and that's what they were.
They're all perfectly reasonable if you don't expect them to be historical documents, or realistic. This is Hollywood escapism, folks. |
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MisterBadIdea
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Posted - 02/29/2008 : 22:20:29
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I thought the storyline with Juliette Binoche was more romantic than anything in Titantic.
Oh, no way, man. Both characters are so undeveloped, and the romance so slight, that it barely registers at all. Seriously, they part at the end of the movie, as if they're not even going to miss each other. |
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An inherent flaw in the Oscars...?
