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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/10/2007 :  14:08:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very good comments, BaftaBabe and demonic. Agreed.

Having read AIRBOLT's post, I wonder if I blinked at the start of the film, but if not, one thing I did appreciate was that all reference to its being in fifty years' time (that was definitely mentioned in the trailer) seemed to be removed from the film.

However, the plot holes are extremely annoying. It is not clear why the mission would need to be manned at all, and if it were to need manning, they would definitely send far more than eight people, so as to have spares. It makes no sense that only one person would have the skill to do a certain task (and a task that appears to need no skill at that).

Why would the ship be called the Icarus? Icarus wasn't trying to fly to the Sun - it just melted his wings. So that is the perfect name to give something that the Sun will destroy. In another film, this might have been an ironic comment by the film-makers, but I don't think so here.

The "our nearest star" line was just as misplaced as I expected.

The end of the film is very confused - it is hard to grasp who is where/how they got there. One just ends up waiting for the chaos to end and to see what the outcome is.

The special effects are quite good - but then how hard is fire to simulate? Not very.

With not much work, it could have been a lot better.

Edited by - Salopian on 04/10/2007 14:10:13
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/10/2007 :  14:29:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way, Sean, I wouldn't necessarily recommend this as worthy of an exceptional trip to the cinema for you, but I was definitely happier watching it there than I would have been on the small screen.
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 05/01/2007 :  11:05:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
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Originally posted by Salopian


one thing I did appreciate was that all reference to its being in fifty years' time (that was definitely mentioned in the trailer) seemed to be removed from the film.




Agreed

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they would definitely send far more than eight people, so as to have spares. It makes no sense that only one person would have the skill to do a certain task (and a task that appears to need no skill at that).



there may not have had enough oxygen.


quote:

Why would the ship be called the Icarus? Icarus wasn't trying to fly to the Sun - it just melted his wings. So that is the perfect name to give something that the Sun will destroy. In another film, this might have been an ironic comment by the film-makers, but I don't think so here.



From the beginning of the movie (and from Cillian Murphys last message home) it was pretty clear that they were not going to make it back but they were going to reignite the sun and the survivors on earth would notice a brighter than usual day etc. it was just a matter of how it happened...in this case with leaps of my imagination that were so great i began to experience vertigo.

But there were pockets that i enjoyed and i agree with you bafta the performances were underused.

Airbolt i liked the idea of a doomed mission piloted by a man from the country who came up with the idea of kamekasi missions.

All in all i did enjoy it despite the bungee like suspension of disbelief.

6/10

Edited by - Beanmimo on 05/01/2007 11:07:45
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/01/2007 :  11:42:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beanmimo

there may not have had enough oxygen.

The whole oxygen thing does not make any sense. They could easily recycle enough oxygen using plants (or artificially, for that matter).
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 05/01/2007 :  12:41:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MORE SPOILERS

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Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by Beanmimo

there may not have had enough oxygen.

The whole oxygen thing does not make any sense. They could easily recycle enough oxygen using plants (or artificially, for that matter).



Yeah I enjoyed the greenhouse room and the overgrown one in the original Icarus.
Infact I was expecting a Ben Gunn like character to emerge from there instEAd of the supernaturally strong 'altered states' like ex captain who did materialise.

But Sal the greenhouse burned down. Then they had no more.

I did also like the fact that they did proper cooking and none of this pill food crap.

Edited by - Beanmimo on 05/01/2007 12:43:10
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Salopian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/01/2007 :  16:27:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beanmimo

But Sal the greenhouse burned down. Then they had no more.

Yeah, but that was completely unrealistic - for that very reason (or disease etc.) the plants would be in numerous separate areas. Also, young plants give off more oxygen, so replacement seedlings would soon replace the same volume. Anyway, I don't mind that unrealism so much - the bizarre manning of the ship (only one person able to detonate the payload) is more silly.
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  06:58:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Roger Ebert answers my question.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 07/27/2007 :  07:48:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Ali

Roger Ebert answers my question.
Not surprised about that. On top of Mt Everest there is only about 28% of the air pressure that there is at sea level. Survival up there is measured in days (provided you are warm and have enough to eat/drink). Death tends to occur due to oxygen starvation (even with oxygen tanks) due to cerebral or pulmonary oedema (buildup of water in the brain or lungs causing oxygen starvation).

Another way of looking at it, in a vacuum the human skin only needs to hold back half the pressure of a car tyre, or a seventh the pressure of a bicycle tyre, or a seventh the pressure of a Champagne bottle in order to prevent the blood from bursting out through the skin. So 'exploding' won't occur, and death would occur due to brain death caused by oxygen starvation, which takes a few minutes. Reassuring, isn't it?
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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"

Posted - 09/07/2007 :  11:05:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my quick take

Alien + 2001 + Altered States
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